Ohioans For Concealed Carry membership coordinator Dan White attended the Lorain City Council committee meeting Monday, and has reported that a proposed ordinance to ban firearms on all city-owned property is effectively dead.

After a reading of the proposed amendment, the microphone was turned over to Lorain law director Mark Provenza.

Mr. Provenza read the relevant sections of the ORC, including Section 9, that stated that municipalities can't ban. He reminded everyone that city owned buildings are already banned. He told the council that his original go ahead for them to consider the legislation was based on comments from the AG's office spokesperson in the Elyria Chronicle Telegram that the AG was deferring to the cities to decide on whether or not to enact bans.

Provenza informed council members that every indication since then has been that cities are NOT free to ban, and quoted information provided by the Ohio Attorney General’s office to Sen. Randy Gardner (and originally reported by OFCC) which stated that "local ordinances cannot override state law", and acknowledged that cities cannot ban on public transportation services such as busses.

May 11, 2004
Toledo Blade

2 charged in carryout heist foiled by armed store clerk

Two men were charged yesterday in the robbery of a West Toledo carryout during which one of them was shot twice by a store employee.

Detectives said they issued a warrant charging Jose J. Custodia-Mota, 22, with aggravated robbery. He was taken to Toledo Hospital after being shot once in the leg and once in the shoulder. A hospital spokesman said she had no information on a patient by that name.

His accused getaway driver, Alberto Martinez, 32, who gave Lucas County jail officials a Toledo address, was arraigned on the same charge in Toledo Municipal Court. He was being held in the jail in lieu of $50,000 bond. Police believe both suspects are from Columbus. The 23-year-old employee, Habib Howard, whose family owns the store, Howard's Carryout, 3730 Monroe St., was not hurt. Authorities said he used his handgun during the shooting, and he has a carry-concealed weapon permit that he obtained in Fulton County.

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Aside from the fact that this organization has NEVER used the word boycott to describe our efforts to inform CHL-holders that they are not welcome in stores listed on our Do Not Patronize While Armed database, and aside from the fact that this reporter was so informed, we are pleased to see this issue getting the attention it deserves.

Only 300 businesses out of thousands and thousands and thousands in Ohio have posted these discriminatory signs...

Conceal-carry faction promises boycotts

May 11, 2004
by Robert Vitale
Columbus Dispatch

Backers of Ohio’s new law allowing people to carry concealed handguns are fighting back against businesses that bar them.

Their weapon of choice: a boycott.

Ohioans for Concealed Carry, the group that pushed for the law in effect since April 8, says it has had some success in getting businesses to reconsider their bans, particularly if they are part of multistate chains that posted no-gun signs in Ohio but not in neighboring states that grant concealed-weapons permits.

But representatives of some businesses say they’re not alarmed to be among more than 300 businesses on a statewide "do not patronize while armed" list the group is publicizing through its Internet site, www.ofcc.net.

"We’re OK if they choose to boycott our stores," said Karen Maier, vice president of marketing for Cincinnati-based Frisch’s Inc., which has posted signs banning weapons at all corporate-owned Big Boy restaurants in Ohio. "We don’t want firearms in our stores."

Businesses on the list range from a hair salon in Bucyrus to shopping malls in Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati. Others are multiple locations of chain stores and restaurants.

Also included: the Columbus Zoo and Aquarium, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton.

"It’s not that we’re calling it a boycott," said Jim Irvine, spokesman for Ohioans for Concealed Carry. "It’s that they don’t want us there."

Irvine said he thinks businesses across Ohio were tricked into posting no-gun signs by local governments, law-enforcement agencies and chambers of commerce that offered them.

Under the law, the only businesses required to ban concealed weapons are child-care centers and places serving alcohol. Guns also are banned in government buildings, airports and schools.

All other private businesses can choose whether to bar employees and customers from carrying concealed handguns.

Irvine’s group is selling business-card-size handouts to conceal-carry permit-holders that they can give to businesses posting no-gun policies.

The handout reads: "We have noticed your sign and are going to respect your wishes by shopping elsewhere. You lost my business now and in the future."

Gerard Valentino of Pickerington, the regional representative for Ohioans for Concealed Carry, said he receives three or four e-mails a day from people with new businesses to list.

"We have very strong convictions," he said.
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Some businesses on the list have equally strong feelings against guns on their premises.

"We don’t want anybody . . . carrying any weapons whatsoever," said Bridgette Stewart, marketing and leasing manager for Westland Mall in Columbus.

Other businesses are considering companywide policies.

Kroger stores in Cincinnati originally posted no-gun signs, while stores in Columbus did not, said Gary Rhodes, a spokesman for the Cincinnati-based grocery chain. But six Krogers in the Columbus area that host wine-tasting events now display signs banning weapons, he said. The company is waiting to hear whether stores with children’s play areas must follow suit.

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