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Advertiser on Cleveland Plain Dealer’s abusive CHL-list: ''Don't email me''

Submitted by cbaus on Sat, 01/08/2005 - 06:00.

Frustrated with continued abuse of the media access loophole by the Cleveland Plain Dealer, an OFCC supporter tried new angle at expressing displeasure with Cleveland Plain Dealer:

He complained to the advertisers who are sponsoring the pages...

-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon Dec 27 14:13:03 2004
Subject: Re: Permits issued to carry concealed firearms in Northeastern Ohio

...I posted a message to the advertisers' web site saying something like "By
publishing the names of permit holders, you are endangering women who may
be abuse victims. It is possible that many of these female permit holders
have taken out restraining orders against their abusers. Publishing their
names is plain dangerous."

In response, a representative of Infinity of Bedford sent the following:

    Subject: Web Inquiries
    Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004
    From: "Gutowitz,Mike"

    Please from this point forward do not email me unless you are interested in
    a vehicle from Infiniti of Bedford. We are not interested in your opinion
    on gun control. Thank you for your time.

    Mike Gutowitz
    Internet Sales Manager
    Infiniti of Bedford
    440-359-1493
    1-800-522-0152
    mgutowitz@unitedauto.com
    http://www.infinitibedford.com
    www.infiniti.com

The Plain Dealer's abusive, discriminatory website rotates banner advertising, so there are many companies which concerned readers can contact.

The question is, if they don’t want to hear from you about your displeasure with being discriminated against, do they still want your dollars?

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Letter to the Editor: Not looking to play pseudo-cops, robbers

Submitted by cbaus on Sat, 01/08/2005 - 05:00.

January 5, 2005
Cleaveland Plain Dealer

In response to John J. Myers' Dec. 28 letter, "Gun bans don't ensure safety":

I must speak out on behalf of gun owners who are not vigilantes waiting for the opportunity to pull our weapons out and shoot potential criminals. In places such as bars and banks, which often leave people tightly packed into a small space, the last thing that I want is to be caught in a crossfire between a robber and some NRA member with a concealed-carry permit who has never fired his gun outside of a shooting range.

Christopher A. Gray
Lakewood

Commentary:
Readers who review Mr. Myers' letter, entitled "Gun bans don't ensure safety", will quickly realize his letter was anything but an advocation of vigilateism.

But then people like the above letter-writer aren't known for being able to have a factual debate on this issue.

For instance, we're quite certain Gray hasn't bothered to check on whether these phantom shootouts between robbers and CHL-holders are occurring in other states (they are not).

Should Gray really be purporting to speak for ANY gun owners, when he thinks it a bad thing for someone to lack experience in firing a gun outside of a range situation? That same description would certainly fit the vast majority of our nation's police officers.

Once again, the only defense against the logic of allowing citizens their right to bear arms for self-defense comes in the form of baseless "what-if" scenarios that have no basis in the experience of other states which have more tolerant concealed carry laws.

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